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# 2797 Bright And Early Shabbos II
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Q. Thank you for the questions and answers which are very good.
My only comment is on the first one (2714), regarding summer days when the husband davens early Kabbolas Shabbos, if his wife have to abstain from doing melochos at that same time and light candles then, you wrote; "Igrois Moshe (O.H. 3: 28) rules that is the husband decides to attend an early minyan during the summer days out of convenience he does not impose Shabbos restrictions on his wife or other members of his family.
However, if he does so out of respect and acceptance to the kedusha of Shabbos, by adding an early Tosefes Shabbos, or out of concern not to be late and transgress Shabbos violations, it is seen as having accepted a minhag or tradition, that his wife has to follow.
Igrois Moshe argues that this is not the usual common case, since likely he does not do so in the short winter days, and it only reflects a desire of convenience. However, Shevet Halevy (7; 35) disagrees. See Piskei Teshuvos (263: 75). Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is to be lenient."
My question is; Does Reb Shlomo hold that l'chatchila? Can a wife do melochos after her husband was mekabel Shabbos or rather rely on this b'mokom tzorech but no as a weekly practice?
A. Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is that on the onset, lechatchila, a wife should abstain from doing melochos once the husband attended an early minyan and accepted Shabbos.
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Posted 8/14/2020 2:29 PM |
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# 2796 Good Mazal to the Mazal Tov
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Q. I met on Tisha Beav a friend who informed me of the recent engagement of his son. I told him Mazal Tov, but then I thought maybe one should not say that on Tisha Beav. What is correct?
A. Nitei Gavriel (Bein Hametzarim 2: 76: 7) quotes Leket Yosher that one may say good night on Tisha Beav since it is not a greeting but rather a blessing and a prayer, He mentions that the same would apply to saying Mazal Tov,
He proves his point from the ruling of the Ezer Mikoidesh (E.H. 21), that although one should abstain from greeting women, he may say Mazal Tov after a bris or other simcha, since it is a tefila and a blessing. He also quotes Shalmas Chaim (Y.D. 425) ruling that one may wish Mazal Tov to an ovel.
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is also that one may wish mazal tov.
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Posted 8/12/2020 10:25 AM |
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# 2795 Dancing Out of Time?
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Q. We have the minhag that we usually dance and sing after Kiddush Levana. Is it correct to do so on Motzei Tisha Beav also, since the avelus (mourning) still applies until the afternoon of the next day?
A. Remah (O.H. 426: 2) mentions the dancing done after Kiddush Levanah based on Meiri (Sanhedrin 42a).
Since the dance and singing is part of a mitzva it is permitted, as eating meat would be. (Nechmas Yisroel (2: 3) quoting Horav Eliashiv zt'l, Nitei Gavriel- Bein Hametzarim 1: 49: 4 - 2: 87: 9 - Yerushalaim Bemoadeiha p. 232).
Other Poskim disagree and recommend not to sing and dance (Halichos Shlomo 15: 22, Teshuvos Vehanhogos 1: 206 quoted by Yeshuos Daniel p. 19).
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is that each one should maintain his own traditions.
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Posted 8/12/2020 10:23 AM |
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# 2794 A Cold Comfort?
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Q. Is it allowed to go and be menachem ovel (comforting) someone sitting shiva on Tisha Beav? Before or after noon? What are the words we should one say then?
A. Igrois Moishe (O.H. 5: 20: 22) writes that nichum avelim on Tisha Beav should not be done until after chatzos, since words of consolation should not be mentioned before that time. However, he adds that if one is leaving town, he may do so even on the night before, but should refrain from words of consolation. Nevertheless, he can say the customary blessing of "Hamakom Yenachem" even then.
See also similar in Nitei Gavriel p. 438, Chaye Moshe p. 246, and Halichos Emes p. 191.
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is similar.
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Posted 8/12/2020 10:20 AM |
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#2793 Disregard Regards
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Q. Some people in my shul say that you can greet someone on Tisha Beav after chatzos (midday), when they come to daven mincha. Is that correct?
A. The prohibition of greeting on Tisha Beav applies the complete day. (Piskei Teshuvos 554: n. 86).
Nitei Gavriel (Bein Hametzarim 2: 76: 2) permits after midday in need.
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is similar.
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Posted 8/11/2020 10:57 AM |
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# 2792 Ease at Ill
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Q. Is it permitted to visit the ill and do Bikur Cholim on Tisha Beav, since it is prohibited to greet people on that day? Should one wait until after chatzos?
A. Poskim permit Bikur Cholim when needed (Halichos Emes p.191 and others).
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is that when possible one should wait until after midday.
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Posted 8/11/2020 10:44 AM |
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# 2791 Testing When Not Tasting
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Q. One that has to do periodically blood tests when fasting and finds it hard to do so, can a blood test be done on Tisha Beav since he is fasting anyway?
A. On question 219 regarding a blood test on Tzom Gedalia we wrote; “The Talmud mentions not to do hakozas dam (bloodletting) when fasting (Shabbos 129a, Taanis 25a). However, Rivavos Ephraim (1:340) rules in regards to the prohibition of bloodletting on the eve of every Yom Tov (see Tur O.H. 468:3), that it does not apply to the common blood tests of today, as the amounts extracted are small and do not cause weakness or debility.
Horav Shlomo Miller’s Shlit”a opinion is that it is permitted especially at the end of the taanis, when it is close to breaking the fast.”
On question 2494 regardin a blood test on Assara Beteveth that according to some opinions is more severe than others, we wrote: "In our case, if there is a need for someone who finds it difficult to abstain another ten hours or more from eating or drinking coffee for a blood test, the Rov maintains it is permitted. As far as the possibility of a taanis being a detrimental omen day, the Rov quoted the rule often used in similar matters; “Man delo kopid, lo kopdinon leih” or one that is not himself concerned, we are not concerned for him. (Pesachim 110b).
Regarding Tisha Beav Horav Shlomo Miller's opinion is similar.
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Posted 8/11/2020 10:42 AM |
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# 2790 A Shiur on Shiurim
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Q. My husband is unable to fast this Tisha Beav. Should he eat small amounts as one does during Yom Kippur?
A. Regarding eating less than the subscribed amounts (shiurim) for someone who is unable to fast on Tisha Beav. One of the differences between fasting on Tisha Beav and Yom Kippur is eating pachos m’keshiur, or less than the minimum amount. If fasting might endanger a person’s life, one is forbidden to fast. On Yom Kippur, if a small amount of food or beverage removes the danger as it is common, one should only eat very small amounts of food and beverage at one time.
Many Poskim maintain that concerning eating small quantities applies only to Yom Kippur and not to Tisha B’Av (Shulchan Aruch O.H. 554:6). A sick person is completely excluded from the mitzvah of fasting on Tisha Beav. Therefore, he is not required to try to consume less than the minimum amount. However, anyone who is eating on a fast day because of medical necessity should eat only enough for his essential needs and not eat in excess (see Shulchan Aruch 554:5).
However, Biur Halacha (ibid.) quotes Pischei Olam who maintains that someone eating on a fast day because of the danger created by a cholera epidemic should eat only small amounts (even other than Yom Kippur). Tzemach Tzedek (8-9),Maharam Shik (289) and others rule similarly.
Yet the accepted Halacha is that if someone is seriously ill, on Tisha Beav one does not need to eat shiurim. (Maharam Shik 290. Kaf Hachaim 554: 31, Avnei Ezer 540, Piskei Teshuvos 554 n.44 and others).
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is similar.
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Posted 8/11/2020 10:38 AM |
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# 2789 Learning the Hard Way Only?
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Q. We have a well attended Daf Hayomi shiur. Can the shiur take place on Erev Tisha Beav after chtatzot (afternoon) as we usually abstain at that time from learning Torah that does not apply or refer to the churban? Does the fact that a significant amount of bitul Torah (neglect of learning) is involved permit the shiur?
A. Remah (O.H. 553: 2) writes that it is a tradition not to learn Torah on Erev Tisha Beav from chatzos (midday) onward, unless it is the same subjects permitted during Tisha Beav itself.
However Mishna Berura (8) quotes Poskim that permit (Maharshal, Hagra, Chaye Adam and others) since they maintain that it is a unnecessary stringency. Maamar Mordechai, adds that this creates bitul Torah for many, since people learn what their heart desires. He rules that one can be lenient. Shoel Umeshiv (3: 1: 131) mentions that he wrote that particular teshuva on Erev Tisha Beav, since it was necessary.
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is similar.
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Posted 8/7/2020 4:17 PM |
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# 2788 First Done First Served?
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Q. (See questions 2787-88-89 above) Which should be done first (on Tisha Beav), the levayah of the aunt who was just niftar or the Hakamat Mazeiva of her husband who passed away almost a year ago?
A. Shulchan Aruch (Y.D. 354: 2) rules that when the levayah of a man and a woman are ready to be done at the same time, the burial of the woman takes precedence, as she is most prone to decay first. This applies even if the man died first (Ch. R"A Eiger ad loc).
Certainly when dealing with the Hakomas Hamatzeiva of the husband, the burial of the wife takes precedence.
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Posted 8/6/2020 12:15 PM |
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# 2787 A Monumental Mourning
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Q. (See questions 2787-88 above). Can the Hakamat Hamatzeiva be done on Tisha Beav and the same day as the levayah? Are hespedim permitted?
A. Nitei Gavriel (Bein Hametzarim 2: 81: 7) permits Hakamat Matzeiva on Tisha Beav. Mekadesh Yisroel (309) and Nishmas Yisroel (35) and others also allow, but debate if hespedim or eulogies are permitted since it is a day when tachanun is omitted, as it is also considered a moed. (see question above that many permit when mention of the avelus of the day, so not to forget the important significance of the occasion).
Horav Shlomo Miller’s Shlit’a opinion is similar.
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Posted 8/6/2020 12:09 PM |
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# 2786 A Sad Stating of Afairs
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Q. (See question 2787 above) Are Hespedim permitted on Tisha Beav?
A. Mishna Berura (559: 17) rules that although tachanun is not recited on Tisha Beav, as it is called ’moed’ (essentially it is and in the future it will be openly a Yom Tov), hespedim can be said on a Talmid Hacham even after chatzos. Devar Shmuel (9) and others permit saying hespedim for all niftarim. They recommend also to mention the avelus of the day, so not to forget the important significance of the occassion.
Horav Shlomo Miller’s Shlit’a opinion is similar
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Posted 8/6/2020 11:57 AM |
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# 2785 Halevai No Levayah
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Q My aunt passed away before Tisha Beav and in order to have her two sons who live overseas attend the levayah, it was postponed to Tisha Beav, since they find it very difficult to travel these covid times. Since her husband passed away about a year ago and the matzeva was ready, they decided to do the unveiling also on the same day. A few questions.
1) If you do a levayah on Tisha Beav can it be done before chatzos or does it have to wait until the afternoon?
A. It is apparent from Poskim that a levayah should should be done early, since it is a most important mitzva and the principle of "zerizim makdimin" applies, therefore it should not be delayed after chatzos when possible.
Horav Shlomo Miller’s Shlit’a opinion is similar
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Posted 8/6/2020 11:50 AM |
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# 2784 Come Out Clean
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Q. May one pick up from the cleaners during the 9 Days clothing that were brought in before Rosh Chodesh?
A. Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is that he may pick it up, as there is no concern of maras ayin or what may seem to observers a violation of Halacha (one could be saving it for Shabbos or for after the Nine Days). Of course the restrictions on wearing laundered clothing during the Nine Days apply.
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Posted 8/6/2020 11:26 AM |
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# 2783 United We Stand?
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Q. I also wonder, (see question 2782 above), when it rains the minyanim often meet wearing masks inside one of the houses, staying separately inside different adjoining rooms with open doors. Does this scenario qualify as a proper minyan?
A. As mentioned above, if the people in different rooms see each other and have a clear intention to be part of the minyan, Mishna Berura rules that in need one can be lenient. However, Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is that regarding Chazaras Ha’shatz and Kerias Hatorah, one should be stringent.
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Posted 8/6/2020 11:20 AM |
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# 2782 Clear The Deck
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Q. Regarding the questions regarding fences separating backyard properties to be able to have a proper minyan for Chazaras Hashatz. I wonder about the backyards that have decks as many do. These decks are usually more than ten tefachim high and are also surrounded with their own protective railings that are also higher. Can part of the minyan be standing on the deck? Are these decks any different than an elevated bimah in a shul that also has similar railing? Why would small chain-link fences between properties be any different?
A. Although. as mentioned on question above, Mishna Berura (55: 52) rules in principle that one who davens in the window of an adjoining building, if his face is visible, is counted as part of the minyan, Horav Aharon Miller Shlit'a quoted that Horav Shlomo Miller Shlit'a maintains that it does divide the minyan if it is ten tefachim high (approximately 1.m), for the purpose of reciting Chazaras Ha’shatz and Kerias Hatorah, as mentioned above. It is not the same as the ten tefachim high railings of an elevated bimah in a shul, where the people standing there are counted as part of the minyan even for everything, since they are under one uniting roof and not outside.
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Posted 8/6/2020 11:10 AM |
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# 2781 And the Name Is...
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Q. Can a Ben Torah give the name of a recently deceased uncle to his newborn child. The uncle was not frum at all, but he was very helpful and loving to his nephew and as Hakoras Hatov he wants to give the baby his name. Is that correct and advisable?
A. There is great importance in the giving of a name to a newborn in Jewish tradition and the names should be carefully chosen as the y have an immeasurable effect on the spiritual development of the child
One of the most important principles in our religion that we must very clearly understand, is that it is all based on Hakoras Hatov. Not only to the other ones we benefited from, including even inanimate entities, but most importantly to have Hakoras Hatov to our Creator. So there is no doubt, that recognition and thankfulness should be given to the deceased uncle, especially if the family expects that his name should be given to the newborn. However, one may add a second name to the baby that also honors a Talmid Hacham in the family. (See also question 2512).
Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is similar.
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Posted 8/6/2020 11:04 AM |
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# 2780 Questionable Money
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Q. I heard once that there is a minhag not to handle money during Tisha Beav. Is that really so?
A. Nitei Gavriel (Bein Hametzarim 2: 79: 17) indeed quotes from Machzor Meaglei Tzedek, that there is an ancient minhag for some, not to handle money before chatzos on Tisha Beav. (Presumably for concentrating and not forgetting the mourning of the day). However, that does not include the monies given for tzedaka, as he mentions there.
As usual Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is that one should keep the minhogim of his family and community.
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Posted 8/4/2020 5:08 PM |
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# 2779 One False Move
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Q. I was present at a siyum masechta that three sons made for their father's yohrzait during the Nine Days. It was a flaishig (meat) siyum and each one of the sons spoke. One of the sons mentioned when he spoke, that he wasn't able to complete his full share of the dafim assigned to him. There was an uproar and some of the presents said that no one should continue eating meat and some even claimed that they should not bentsch, since they ate a prohibited seuda during the Nine Days. Where they right?
A. Chashukei Chemed (Shabbos 137a) mentions a similar shailah regarding a fleishig bris milah seuda done on Rosh Chodesh Av. The mohel, due to the pressure of the baby's father, performed the bris when the baby was still yellow. It was due to the large amount of guest who attended the feast at a fancy and expensive hall. Chasukei Chemed debates whether one can eat meat in such a meal, since due to the danger involved the bris the mitzva was not done properly and leans to be stringent.
However, in our particular case, although the siyum was not completed properly, Horav Shlomo Miller's Shlit'a opinion is that it is still considered a seudas mitzva, but on the onset meat should not be consumed. Nevertheless, the birchas hamazon should be recited.
(One may search for someone that attends Daf Hayomi, as the learners often have almost finished small masechtos and are saving the last few lines for the right occasion).
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Posted 8/4/2020 4:43 PM |
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# 2778 A Look Into Luck
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Q. Someone who has to deal with government property tax revue issues, should he avoid doing so during the three weeks?
A. On question 19 regarding signing the waver of conditions or contracting a mortgage during the three weeks or nine days, we wrote: "Shulchan Oruch (O.C. 551:2) rules that on the nine days we restrain from engaging on constructions that bring enjoyment. Mishna Berurah (ibid 7) quotes Magen Avrohom that this includes any construction that is not essential for normal living purposes, but is done for superfluous and gratuitous utility. Mekor Hachaim (ibid.) and Devar Yehoshua (2:73) permit the construction of structures for commerce or rental intent.
Horav Shlomo Miller’s Shlita opinion is that signing a waver of conditions or signing a mortgage for commercial purposes is permitted even during the nine days. For residential necessity, it would be permitted only in compelling circumstances where one can not wait until after Tisha Beav."
The Rov's opinion is that in general, when dealing with issues that may present some degree of danger or loss, they should be avoided during the three weeks. Horav Dovid Pam Shlit'a added that during the three weeks we avoid items that incur in sakana or danger, however, after Tisha Beav we are more concerned with reiya mazleih or our mazal being inferior and unfortunate. See questions 1406 and 1801 on the different opinions until when it extends.
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Posted 8/4/2020 4:28 PM |
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